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at the cayman island. >> it's a nice gesture for the president considering that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. >>> as you heard, we have lots more to talk about with our roundtable right after this from our abc stations. >> but, the problem with controlling costs you can only do that to some degree. every single year we go back and do the "doc" fix and we'll do it between now and january 1st. that is all always a phoney that congress is going to cut payments to doctors and doctors pull out of the medicare program. >> and the money is restored. >> it's hard to do this without structural reforms. >> let me, if you don't mind, we have seen people's retirement package reduced. we have seen people's individual savings, go down. you can't keep on seeing 401(k)s go down and then say, we're going to cut the other stuff that people count on. >> the numbers have to work. >> i want to turn to the tax debate as well. you guys are sitting back. let's get to the tax debate. you have seen speaker boehner, and other republic
or leave it to the staffers? >> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about jobs, they talk about unemployment, and they don't want manufactured crises from washington when you could cut these tax hikes on the middle class, first order of business. >> it is fascinating. you eluded to it earlier, number of guests have talked about this as well, how we are very much in the posturing phase period as you indicated. a lot of bluster, a lot of chest thumping. one has to wonder at what point, at what point, perry, all of that ends and the real negotiating gets started. >> it's going to get close -- january 1st is getting closer. we're further from the posturing stage and further
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